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thought i’d take advantage of pokerstars’ tidy hand histories, and create a space to post unusual or tough hands for discussion.
- hand #1: emptying the clip
PokerStars Home Game Hand #140892048595: {Piranha Online} Tournament #1324418226, 1+0 Hold’em No Limit – Level III (25/50) – 2015/09/15 22:22:05 ET
Table ‘1324418226 1’ 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: SoMoney415 (2328 in chips)
Seat 2: UPSPWNAGE (1340 in chips)
Seat 6: radicaldude (1787 in chips)
Seat 8: vincitqpati (3252 in chips)
Seat 9: pepitopea (6293 in chips)
SoMoney415: posts small blind 25
UPSPWNAGE: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pepitopea [?? ??]
radicaldude: raises 75 to 125
vincitqpati: folds
pepitopea: calls 125
SoMoney415: folds
UPSPWNAGE: folds
*** FLOP *** [
] (325)
radicaldude: bets 162
pepitopea: calls 162
*** TURN *** [ ] [
] (~650)
radicaldude: checks
pepitopea: bets 375
radicaldude: calls 375
*** RIVER *** [ ] [
] (~1400)
radicaldude: checks
pepitopea: bets 1222
radicaldude: ????Q: what should dominic’s (radicaldude’s) calling range be?
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- hand #2: strange c-bet and river bomb
PokerStars Home Game Hand #140892909636: {Piranha Online} Tournament #1324418226, 1+0 Hold’em No Limit – Level VII (60/120) – 2015/09/15 23:06:36 ET
Table ‘1324418226 2’ 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: T Aardvark (2178 in chips)
Seat 3: HottChef06 (6556 in chips)
Seat 5: Eff5.6 (4200 in chips)
Seat 6: vincitqpati (9332 in chips)
Seat 8: taxlawr (3887 in chips)
Seat 9: pepitopea (6847 in chips)
T Aardvark: posts the ante 15
HottChef06: posts the ante 15
Eff5.6: posts the ante 15
vincitqpati: posts the ante 15
taxlawr: posts the ante 15
pepitopea: posts the ante 15
Eff5.6: posts small blind 60
vincitqpati: posts big blind 120
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pepitopea [5c 7h]
taxlawr: raises 120 to 240
pepitopea: folds
T Aardvark: folds
HottChef06: raises 120 to 360
Eff5.6: folds
vincitqpati: folds
taxlawr: calls 120
*** FLOP *** [
] (~1000)
taxlawr: checks
HottChef06: bets 120
taxlawr: calls 120
*** TURN *** [ ] [
] (~1240)
taxlawr: bets 1230
HottChef06: calls 1230
*** RIVER *** [ ] [
] (~3700)
taxlawr: bets 2162 and is all-in
HottChef06: ?????Q: what is lori’s (taxlawr’s) range?
Q: what is dean’s (hottchef06’s) range?==================
- hand #3: blind v blind war
PokerStars #140892146753: Tournament #1324418226, 1+0 Hold’em No Limit – Level III (25/50) – 2015/09/15 22:26:47 ET
Table ‘1324418226 1’ 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: SoMoney415 (2053 in chips)
Seat 2: UPSPWNAGE (1565 in chips)
Seat 6: radicaldude (1035 in chips)
Seat 8: vincitqpati (3357 in chips)
Seat 9: pepitopea (6990 in chips)
vincitqpati: posts small blind 25
pepitopea: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pepitopea [?? ??]
SoMoney415: calls 50
UPSPWNAGE: folds
radicaldude: folds
vincitqpati: folds
pepitopea: checks
*** FLOP *** [
] (100)
pepitopea: checks
SoMoney415: checks
*** TURN *** [ ] [
] (100)
pepitopea: checks
SoMoney415: bets 62
pepitopea: calls 62
*** RIVER *** [ ] [
] (~225)
pepitopea: checks
SoMoney415: bets 300
pepitopea: ???Q: what does rodney (SoMoney415) have?
Q: what hands should pepito (pepitopea) call with?==================
i’ll post results (and some thoughts) later, if the ball gets rolling.
hand #1: based on action and run-out, if dom has A6 or A5 with the Ad, he can arguably hero call with Ahi. he also should confidently call with any piece of the flop.
hand #2: highly confident lori is bluffing. think she shows up with AJ or KJ very often.
hand #3: rodney nearly always has a hand worse than Qx and is bluffing 99.9% of the time on this run-out.
I am not to sure on Hand #3 that Rodney always has qx here and this is a bluff 99%. I do believe that his value betting/monster hands combos here are very limited though. I have seen him take very conservative line with AX here checking pre to be tricky and then checking back multiple times thinking he wont get any value and thinking no way he is getting paid until a river bet. I think he is Capable of value betting a king here but prob not in this spot. since it is bvb and most his K value bets would be ak-kq and he obv raising most hands pre with those holdings. The 4 is an interesting river cause it does put a few combos in Rodney range that he would check flop then semi bluff turn and nail river. A lot of it goes into him playing vs your image though and I am pretty sure he feels you are capable of hero calling a pair…… That makes me think even less likely he is bluffing but can’t wait to find out.
1. With 35 BB Dom should be opening hands he wants to get in by the river, especially with a LAG on button and solid players manning the blinds. otherwise, he finds a situation like this hand where he has to call off.
2. Lori’s line looks super bluffy. A made straight is going for value not trying to push out with a pot bet. The river nine is a bad card to rep. A naked 9 would not likely to bet pot on the turn on a wet board so the second nine doesn’t change much. I agree her range is made up of mostly overs that bricked the gut shut outs. Probably at least a big club as well. I think Dean has a lot of pairs here and some A high hands also.
3. I don’t think he has many hands that hit this board except 22. I’d expect to see QT and QJ here a lot and some 2’s and 4’s. I think taking a stab on this turn is a must with 100% of his entire range after it checks through. The river over bet feels a lot like a 2 or 4 trying to fold out a K. I think it’s a really good bet with an A in this spot.
Talked about spot on whether or not a 4 bet here is plus ev
PokerStars – P1+0|25/50 NL – Holdem – 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3: http://www.pokertracker.comCO: 7,819.00
Hero (BTN): 4,800.00
SB: 2,735.00 LAG basic preflop understanding of others styles
BB: 2,328.00
UTG: 3,234.00 Uber NitSB posts SB 25.00, BB posts BB 50.00
Pre Flop: (75.00) Hero has
UTG raises to 150.00, fold, fold, SB raises to 350.00, BB raises to 2,328.00 and is all-in, fold, SB calls 1,978.00
Flop: (4806.00, 2 players)
Turn: (4806.00, 2 players)
River: (4806.00, 2 players)
SB shows Ad Kc (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 73%, Flop 82%, Turn 93%)
BB shows As Jh (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 27%, Flop 18%, Turn 7%)
SB wins 4,806.00Is a 4 bet here for this sizing with stack dynamics ever profitable in a tourny?
We are dealing with 45BB effective.
Even 5 handed, if we have a very tight player opening UTG that range is going to be very narrow and pretty much exclusively pairs and big aces. Knowing this player, I’d put the range as 99+, AJ+. This player has shown a tendency to have a varied betting pattern for other hands so I am discounting pairs below 99 and hands that would make up many players UTG 5 handed range like AT, KQ, KJ, KT, QJ, and QT.
Against this range AJ is about 32%. I think its a huge mistake to gamble 45 BB on that weak a proposition.
I don’t like the play here from either SB or BB. This is a bad spot to 3 or 4 bet light against opponents likely range of hands without a very strong hand. I would not be three betting less than QQ against this opponent and I’d only 4 bet this spot KK and AA. Everything else is spew.
Against an opponent with a wider range I can see some value to the plays of both SB and BB here. In this spot its an absolute chip dump. If SB had a value hand like a pair its even worse.
If I was in SB I’d be calling with a lot of value hands against UTG based on knowledge of the tight UTG range. I would be looking to crush flop and only continue with very good equity.
If I was BB, assuming UTG raises and SB just calls I’d complete and nothing more. I’d be looking for favorable flops (which we actually get with top pair decent kicker and back door flush possibilities) and trying to pot control. I might actually lead this flop if checked to because UTG will likely tell us exactly where we are at. Its not a line I take a lot but here I think its both prudent and will provide the wanted info. It also forces SB to reveal their strength as well.
When you see very tight players have a lot of chips and can’t figure out how, this is how it happens.
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